Most of you readers know I don’t believe the treasure is in New Mexico. I am living far from the place I grew up and retired from (Albuquerque) partly because I wanted to be closer to where I could search in Wyoming and Montana. That said, if anything would get me back there (besides the red and green chili) it would be this bit of info that I am passing on via a link on Dal’s blog. See if you searchers in New Mexico think it is worth a look-see.
“Winter is upon the Rockies from the Canadian border in the north to Santa Fe in the south, and the many lofty mountain tops that are jammed in-between. Most searchers have retired for the winter and are saving money for expeditions planned for spring when the mountain laurel will again bloom above 5,000. Others complain about the cold but continue searching favored locations. For those who are still active, please heed the rules that govern cold weather survival.
Some fireside researchers have ganged together on the blogs hoping to find flaws in my character that will miraculously lead them to the treasure. It is interesting also, that crazies continue to surface. I have emails from both police and doctors suggesting that I stay alert. Being Forrest Fenn is getting harder all the time, but it will continue to be fun as long as I have a tree to hide behind, maybe a tree with an f carved in its trunk.” — FF
Rarely would I reprint something that’s on another’s blog, but this is important and should be heeded. As for the following quote “Some fireside researchers have ganged together on the blogs hoping to find flaws in my character that will miraculously lead them to the treasure. It is interesting also, that crazies continue to surface….” I say Forrest Fenn has never shown me any reason to doubt his good intentions. I do study Fenn, not for character flaws but to watch for slips that give us hints to the way he thinks. Let me be the first to say it is hard to be looked in the mouth after giving the treasure horse. Unfortunately no good deed goes unpunished. Those will get what they give. Enough quotes. Thanks for the warning Mr. Fenn and may you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Attending the book signing of Forrest’s new book was more eventful than I expected. I had the opportunity to meet Forrest, thank him for the adventure and clear up some questions I had. Forrest and two other renowned authors sat in front of a full house to talk and answer a few questions. I enjoyed using NLP techniques as I watched for a clue to come to the surface that had not been filtered by the conscience mind of Forrest. First the clues Major Fenn did know he gave:
1. It is below 20,000 feet.
2. It is not on a mountain top.
3. There is one clue in his new book.
Now the clues or clue he did not mean to give. Fenn said he did not put a clue in the book on purpose but a lady who helped him produce the book pointed out a clue he did put in the book. Here is the unspoken meaning behind that statement; This lady knows enough to know a clue how would this lady point out a clue if only Fenn knows the location of the treasure? Let’s hear some comments on this. Fenn agrees it is a clue but how would she know?
Fenn shows his wit by misdirecting the audience’s attention to the cover pictures. Dal’s shadow is on the cover with a background of Forrest’s favorite bathing hole somewhere in Montana along side the Madison river. Later he talks about the larger background on the cover saying it came from another spot on the same river. BUT he never said they were the clue in the book. Earlier it was a clue – one clue- in the book and the bait and switch was talking about the cover outside the book (cover) of two not one picture outside the cover. This is the challenge, knowing what is a distraction and what is a solid clue.
Now, here is the unfiltered clue he gave without much thought. He responded to the question would you take me to the treasure (in jest) he answered do you have a plane. Need a plane to go an hour or two in New Mexico? Maybe but a plane suggest more than a short drive and also suggest an airport near by the treasure. Just how near an airport is still a mystery but it is his vehicle of choice to go to the area.
Ok, your turn, what do you think? Anything pro or con is welcome.
Last thought Forrest is either ambidextrous or left handed. I say he is left handed but learned to use his right hand early. He uses his left hand to hold a glass. This may not be important but as a lefty it can make a lot of small differences.
August will find the Dogs of the chase searching the Yellowstone. The biggest pack to date will travel in three groups. Each pack will search the most promising areas provided by previous exploration and interpretation of Forrest’s poem. Readers are invited to contribute. Learn from each other and check out new ideas. If you can’t be looking yourself we could look for you and report here what we find. Comments are welcome as are any questions.
Capt Pappy’s scouting report:
Day 1 Forrest’s last clue “it’s not in Utah or Idaho” narrows down where the home of Brown could be referring. Lamar Valley is still in play (read earlier blogs) but the Browns in Idaho are eliminated. This leaves the Brown on the north side of the park. Uncle Joe Brown a prospector who has a forest, a trail and a boat put in/take out named after him. The Joe Brown turn out is located on Hwy 89 12.7 miles north of Gardiner Montana. The Yellowstone River runs along Hwy 89 and boaters are warned not to go past Joe Brown unless experienced river guides. The area known as Yankee Jim Canyon is filled with heavy loads and water high. A Park Ranger told me Joe Brown’s home was in the Yankee Jim Canyon. Joe Brown found gold in Bear Gulch in the 1890’s. He later married and built a home in Gardiner. The exact location is a mystery as he moved around from Cooke to Cinnabar.
Day 2 Today we scout the west side of the Yellowstone River between Corwin Springs Bridge and Tom Miner Bridge. The road on the westside can get muddy and impassable. Weather is a factor here. I headed for the woods just upstream from the put in across from Joe Brown Trail, 12.7 miles north of Gardiner on Hwy 89. Three acres of cottonwoods, grass and wildflowers surround an open field perfect for a Gypsy Wagon Train Carnival. Lots of trees to look over. Above the woods were rock grevases from which the river and valley can be seen. From here one could watch the fly fishing boats and spy the mountain for wildlife. Someone enjoyed a six pack of Schlitz Beer from this site. These cans had been around for a long time. Made me think of having a sandwich and a flashlight. This area is public surrounded by private property. Fishing is done by boat mostly and not many people stop in this spot. Along the river’s edge be careful of the ants, if you tarry too long they come out and swarm up your legs. The waterline is interesting and many places to look for the chest. The Devils Slide is nearby and it seems like it should be included in the poem but I can’t find a fit. Ok, time to get cleaned up and then dinner overlooking the Yellowstone River. My favorite place to have an elk burger is just over the bridge in Gardiner on the back porch of the local tavern. The name of the place is Iron Horse Bar and Grill.
Day 3 Today we went up the Joe Brown trail . The idea was to check aspens and cottonwoods (blazes) along the way as we climb to the forest named for Uncle Joe Brown. I should have rule this out after my desk clerk at Jim Bridges commented on the steepness of the trail. The view was awesome and after the first half mile we are greeted by a clear cold stream.
Following the stream up were many stands of cottonwoods. I kept going up the stream tempted by the blaze and walked another mile or so. Then reality came back and I knew Forrest didn’t get this far at his age and condition. I decided to continue to the ridge and was rewarded with a view of the Joe Brown Forest I will never forget. The hike down and back to the car convinced me the treasure is not on that trail.
The next move was to explore the Old Yellowstone Trail further north from the clearing I had scouted out on day two. Driving is easy on this road which at times uses the old railroad-track-bed. Three trails are here all going through what was the only way from the north to get to the Roosevelt Gate of the Yellowstone Park. At a midpoint between Cinnabar and Tom Miner Creek is a day picnic area and historic site. The Tom Miner camp is close to Tom’s pay station. Mr. Miner charge $2.50 to get to Cinnabar and the Yellowstone. He in return manage the only road going through the canyon. The old signs could be a blaze as the trail itself. Lots of nooks and crannies to explore here. Great views from the rocks and lots of shade from the many pines. Few if any cottonwoods. A large party of hikers came by made up of a few young children and ten or so young men. All were dressed in od green fatigues. We greeted each other as they past and then they disappeared into the pines. Later I was told the military had done extensive games in that area. My guess is this group like the area so much they came back with their kids to do some hiking. Further south of this spot you can find all three trails. That being the old road Miner kept up, the railroad and the path the natives used. If you are wise and found the blaze came to mind. Could the wise refer to the oldest trail or highest trail? Close by is another blaze an old sign painted on a rock marking a gift shop. This stop is probably close to a hundred years old. Again some good places to look just below this sign and above the trails.
Wow! This Joe Brown guy really gets around. Too Bad the Rocky Mountains we are looking for are north of Santa Fe.
Time for R and R then tomorrow to Tom Miner Creek after a look around the boat put ins on the east side of the river. Please comment and as the saying goes I showed you mine so lets see some of yours.
Day 4 Today we headed down to Joe Brown crossed Hwy 89 and look along the bank. I ruled this area out. Just not private enough. The next stop is Tom Miner camp site. After crossing the Tom Miner bridge its about 9 miles west and up the creek. We were back in national park land as we started up the trail at the end of the camp site. I thought I hit the jack pot. After just a few minutes I was surrounded by trees with blazes. I thought any time now I’ll see a blaze Forrest may have left 60 years ago. This is one of the few places that isn’t overrun by the tourist. The bad news is I felt like I was late for the party as no blaze was unchecked. When I walked to the creek, the mud slides had me hoping the chest wasn’t on the creek. If it were there it could be washed away or buried. I couldn’t help but think this area is too far from the home of Brown. This is still a great place to look if just for the beauty. The fields were full of color giving way to an easy ascent under mostly pine mixed with cottonwoods. Lots of bears in the area the big Brown type of bears. Heading back to camp I decided to check with the property owner where Tom Miner Creek runs into the Yellowstone River. He was very helpful. He says he knows it is not on his land. He also told me the Army had been in the area in large numbers along the Old Yellowstone Trail. Going back to Corwin Springs by way of the Old Trail brought me back to camp were the sunset will find me soaking my feet in the hot spring. While sitting at the hot spring a blaze shines nearby. West, down Yellowstone River, about a half mile the golden tower of light reflects in the yellow huge. How can the Devils Slide and The Tower of Light fit in the poem if only it would come to me my quest would cease.
Lots of info to go as I checkout Jardine, Bear Gulch, Cinnabar, the graveyard outside of Gardiner, a visit to Cody, checking out Gardiner River and a revisit of Lamar Valley.
Listen all and listen good 8,000 visitors and 44 comments. Seems that the goal of this blog is losing out. It is to share ideas on the chase. Here nothing is suppressed unless inappropriate. No insiders here. Finn doesn’t have any connection and nothing owed. I have been told to fade away but I got no quite. However it may be time to move on. I will chase this and other treasures to be sure but I will leave to the sites that are getting a good number of comments for their efforts. One such site is Dal’s he is a very good writer he has a good following. Return soon see what day 5 has and please comment you might just have the answer.
Day 5 We head to Jardine today but before I tell you about that, I have been asked who is this team I refer to and who is with me presently. Billy Bobs White Shoe is my partner’s full name. He is my sidekick who has endured many a trip. Never complains even when we walked in the snow. Glad he only weighs 8 lbs when I carry him across the creeks but he’s no help with the bears. The others number as many as 8 and they join in as time allows. Nothing official just others who have wanted to enter the chase. One teammate is the head of G Dog Productions maybe thats why I refer to this loose group as Dogs of The Chase. Anyone is welcome to join in by setting up a time to meet or by sharing what they think on this blog. If you read the early entries you’ll find that I think the treasure may already have been found. This has upset some people so much that they ignore everything I have offered and wish I would go away. They seem like you just told them there is no Easter Bunny. I love the chase. I have been prospecting for at least 20 years. Big difference between slim and none, a chance or no chance. I don’t want to pretend there is a chest out there just to get along especially if its a hoax. So no one said It was were I think and no one says it was not there. I was there and the Chest was not and Fenn after receiving a complete picture history of the trail and place of the Immaculate Impression just didn’t have the courtesy to comment. Dal says it would give me a clue, but I already know its not there so the only clue is if it was not there. In other words I just got blown off. So instead of quitting I will do my best to leave no stone uncovered.
On the way up to Jardine I stopped here and looked at the climb to get to the Yellowstone River as you can see in the next picture it would be too much for most 78 year olds.
Jardine is an old gold town. People still live there and they have a lot of no trespassing signs around. I enjoyed the view the outstanding area but it is not down from a warm water anything. Joe Brown was here no doubt but he is everywhere. Uncle Joe was at the ranch fishing when the ranch was burned by the natives he was also found gold at Bear Gulch and then again up in Jardine. Joe hung out in Cinnabar and made trips to Cooke City. If you really look close I believe Joe lived around Cinnabar and just may have had an ellias. From here I went north of Tom Miner Bridge. I checked on the Yellowstone River below a boat put in/take out just down from the bridge. There is an island with lots of cottonwoods not to far. No heavy loads, just past the rough waters of Yankee Jim Canyon. This will take a full day so I made my way back driving on the Old Yellowstone Trail stopping off where the a sign was painted on the rock. I spent the next few hours checking out this area. Great place to hide yourself or a chest.
If you are looking for the treasure the treasure is safe. If you know where it is there’s nothing to look for. Those who have chased know its true, even being close won’t do. Lets hear from those who are home from searching we all would benefit and it would be all the more exciting. Day 6 we go across the Yellowstone River and check out the island like the one Capt. Kidd hide his chest on.
Day 6 Today we crossed Tom Miner Bridge then headed north for about three miles. There is a boat take out there and a trail along the river which Bill and I took south for a half mile. We headed across the river ( cold ) to the island. It was about the size of a football field with lots of willows and some cottonwoods. We searched for several hours looking around all the trees and stopping to watch the boats go by. On the way back i rested at a bench placed there in memory of the man who donated the boat landing. He was an avid fly fisherman. I wondered, did Forrest fished here? Maybe sat on this bench and thought about the place he might choose to rest. Later I checked the boat put in/take out below Tom Miners Bridge. Took the rest of the day studying the web and reading a book I bought in Gardiner. The book covers the history of the area from Gardiner to Livingston mile by mile. I also read other websites hoping those who have been in the same area were sharing but all are quite so I took a ride to the graveyard outside Gardiner too have a look around. To get there I drove by the school and a Yellowstone Research Center. The words if you’ve been wise and found the blaze came to me but the blaze is still safe. Still no comments so I grow weary and so I won’t tarry. I will keep the rest to myself until someone gives a little of their own insight. Happy hunting
Day 7 Today I headed back to the Yellowstone past Lamar Valley and the Ranger station then stopped in Cooke City. Joe Brown lived up in Cooke City while he searched for gold. One hunter commented that Uncle Joe had a claim in the Yellowstone area. What a great clue to share with the rest of the pack. From Cooke City I went on to Cody by way of the Chief Joesph Highway. I hope to paint the canyon where bright red clay meets vivid green grass. Cody is Forrest’s gateway to the Yellowstone. He is connected to the Wild Bill Cody Center which was well worth visiting. This trip kept reminding me of the first trip to Yellowstone. Gary Brown was easy to find but Uncle Joe is everywhere. Maybe a live rodeo tonight. There is one every night in Cody. Day 8 coming tomorrow. Stay tuned in, as I have info from Colorado, of treasures new and old. Keep up the comments as the latest ones were refreshing and exciting.
Day 8 Drove back to The Park. Stopped in Mammoth Hot Springs. I hiked a few trails. Here man feels small to the power of Mother Nature. These hikes are rewards in themselves. I will leave most of YNP from Mammoth Hot Springs to Bear Gulch for others.
Headed back to Gardiner where I talked to leatherman. He was in front of one of the cafes. The elderly man had a lot of cowboy in him. He was older but strong. He wore all leather apparel, hat, vest, pants, belt shoes and coat. I sat down and we talk for awhile. This wonderful gentleman and his wife road the Yellowstone National Park for years as they help with reach of the animals. A great cowboy artist who played college football and rode the range, He didn’t know about the treasure but he knows the Yellowstone. He told of the Old Yellowstone Trail and how the railroad used it to build a track to the Roosevelt Gate.
We left Gardiner on the Old Yellowstone Trail and took it in the canyon down not too far to Cinnabar. We put in at a trailhead just north of the old town. we walked down a stream found a National Forest Blaze looked quickly down. Worked down to the river and I could look across to an area that is on the only website in the area. Now that is a place on the list.
Day 9 Woke up in Corwin Springs got washed up and had coffee with the neighboring campers. This is a nice place to camp and the showers are very clean. $20 a night is not too much when the hot spring is thrown in plus God’s awesome beauty in valley. I decided to check out the boat put in over the Corwin Springs Bridge. To my surprise a bus filled with people pulled up. It seems one of the tour boat companies uses this point to launch from. I drifted back about the trees. I never saw a blaze but the waterline had many areas that looked good.
Note to readers: Various difficulties have forced me to write days after the fact. I got to places where I had no connection to the internet. I traveled 1,100 miles to Minnesota and then 1,200 to Pagosa Springs Colorado. I am writing from Boise, Id. The 10 days has been over nearly a month but I have more info coming and an expert on trappers and miners in the Yellowstone area. Day 10 will review best spots and last looks. Then Treasure Falls becomes suspect.
Day 10 Last look. Went to Tom Miner Creek had a look but I couldn’t walk in the mudslide area. This area is a good possibility but the chest could very well be buried if it were here. Checked out the trail to the bridge over Bear Gulch and took last look on the Old Yellowstone Trail just north of Cinnabar. Cinnabar is no more than an open area now days but at its outer boundary a stream is a good place to look. The last drive in the Yellowstone had me thinking it is not private enough for Fenn’s plans.
May 3rd Fenn gave his monthly clue to his treasure and April 18th or so he said to the best of his knowledge the treasure is still there. June 5th and what will Forrest have to say? Don’t hold me to the aforementioned dates as I may be off a day or two. My first question is it out there given the chance to ask and how do you know, is question number two. The new clue is useless if the treasures found.
I responded to two different treasure hunters in the Yellowstone Park. My reply to their blog or comments give exact directions to what I think is the treasures hiding place. When I was searching the YNP I checked my computer daily for new clues. Had anyone offered a place to look I would have check it out. This area is a short easy hike not more than 30 miles from where they reported looking. It is the best place to see the animals, excellent fly fishing, beautiful scenery the Lamar Valley is a must see if your in the YNP. No comments from these hunters, They have a lot of good info and are active on Treasure.net but nothing coming out of YNP as of today. I hope the troll didn’t get them.
Come on you would be millionaires let us come together demanding in ever growing numbers one ear shattering voice “What’s UP.” Let the truth prevail. Get the flash light and make a sandwich. This time, just once let the little guy get to the bottom of it all. We all need something. Fenn needs a hidden treasure to help him sell his next book to you dogs of the chase, and I need a green chilli cheese burger.
Bring your truth of treasure here for all to share perhaps together we can chase more than our tails. Really everyone anyone spill what you know or think. I won’t let anyone bite. I approved everything so far to be open and fair and here any idea gets respect for the effort.
Here are some places to check out on the web followed by some commentary. Placing the pictures in this blog is not allowed as the photos are copy written but just highlight and search and it will take you to some very photos. I left the comments on the photos here for you to read.
1) Night falls around what was then Ranger Gary Brown’s home. Originally published in “Yellowstone Wildlife in Winter,” National Geographic magazine, November 1967
Today, this structure serves as the Lamar Ranger Station, which provides housing for the Lamar ranger and emergency visitor services. Built near the turn of the century, it is on the National Register of Historic Places.
2)1883 Arthur Brown “Yellowstone” Watercolor Painting $75,000 – $125,000
Photograph by William Albert Allard
3)Yellowstone National Park With famous rivers like the Firehole, Madison, Gibbon, Slough Creek, Lamar, Gardner, Pebble Creek, Cache Creek, Hellroaring, Soda Butte, and of course the headwaters of the Yellowstone, our first national park offers anglers endless angling opportunites throughout the summer and fall. for big lake browns that are in the process of “running up” to spawn later in November…More Yellowstone National Park Info
The Yellowstone fires of 1988 were unprecedented in the history of the National Park Service
5)The photo below, taken in late September 1988 shows the fires smouldering in the Lamar. The valley shows no signs of the great fires today, but Specimen Ridge in the background will for a half century or more. The fires of 1988 smouldering in the Lamar; The photo was taken at Rose Creek.
The following have pictures and terms about cottonwoods as a blaze. Very beautiful.
6)Kay Witherspoon 2007 “Autumn Embers ” 11″ x 14″ oil on Linen $2400Fall Foliage in British Columbia, Cariboo Region Fall Colour
7)The Cariboo Region in central British Columbia is ablaze with yellow cottonwoods in fall.
Chris Harris / Getty Images
Wish you could see pictures on this page. It is worth seeing.
Top are three browns and the Rangers sometimes refer to the Valley as Brown Valley do to the large number of bears in the area. That makes four Browns. But do any of these Browns lead us anywhere?
How about Brown trout? No. That would be any area from here to Alaska. No help at all really.
How about a brown building? Too many brown buildings in the mountains to be useful.
How about brown trout and brown buildings? No help yet?
A clue to last over a hundred years something historical something that narrows down the search.
How about Ranger Gary A. Brown? His home was in YNP that’s a good clue.
What else about Ranger Brown? He was the assistant head director of the Yellowstone Nation Parks. Oh, Fenn spent the best summers there in YNP. Ranger Brown started a museum is Fenn into museums? Yes, check out the Will Bill Cody Center in Cody just outside Yellowstone and not too far from Lamar Valley.
Any other Browns? How about Arthur Brown he painted the watercolor of Mammoth Hot Springs. It was appraised in Billings Montana not far from Yellowstone. The painting itself has a very interesting history it may be fun to look it up if you’re a history buff. The story even has some railroad history.
Years writing, a legacy at hand plus one maybe two million dollars in the mix would Fenn just be writing junk?
How about the blaze is it the sun? No help.
Is it a sign on a tree? This would be very helpful, but first where in the Rockys do we look.
Is it a wise person who finds the blaze or is it by study we find the blaze? To keep from being left out of the chase I hope it is through study.
Any historical blaze around? The 1988 Blaze in Yellowstone change the U.S. Forest Dept’s policies on Forest fires. That’s historical. It also came close to burning down Silver and Cooke City in the NE corner of YNP just missing the Roosevelt Hotel. The fire started just north of Gary Brown’s home and it crossed the Lamar river just down from Brown’s old home.
How about the wolf who lived there named Big Blaze oh and don’t forget Little Blaze. The Lamar Valley wolf pack has lots of followers. Check out Blaze the wolf in Yellowstone it is very cool. He is no longer with us and that is sad.
Ok, you decide, have you heard of better clues? Why not share them. Is there anyone as redundant? I keep finding clues that shout Yellowstone, Lamar Valley and Lamar Ranger Station. If there were something that backs this up it is the lack of info about these clues. No one is talking about these clues maybe because they are keeping the good ones to themselves. I don’t blame them but I believe they are too late.
If you do find the treasure couldn’t you just take a picture on a dated news paper for the rest of us. It would have saved me a lot of money on travel etc.. After all I love to chase things that I have some chance of catching. Fenn knows but he ain’t talking. Maybe my interpretation of his poem is much better than his.
Running around the web in my quest for info on the treasure’s location is fun and fascinating. All the attributes and misgivings in human nature come out to play even my own. I have come off to some as arrogant over confident and to others as conceded and self center. Blinded by my own thoughts and the ever growing need to know I have allowed myself to become indulgent reading everything on the subject and rejecting all that doesn’t consider what I feel are the facts. Coaching others to be their best has led me to believe the mind is the greatest place to start when we face challenges. Modesty and sportsmanship, important characteristics in life’s journey are hard to find in the young hero. It is the hero’s down fall that causes the Phoenix to burn become pure and rise from the ashes. Confidence in the leader has won many a lost battle. It keeps us moving toward the goal no matter how hard. The top of the list of athletes I have had the honor to work with believed in themselves and in their coaches. Get a vision see it clearly and stick to it. Wisdom is different. Wisdom lacks the ego. Wisdom hears all sides and finds the value in them. Fenn’s poem spoke to me I went with confidence saw what I saw and now your it. All those in the chase your it. Let us find the Treasure or the end of the chase. Let’s listen and reason together. This is my intent to hear others and to compare. The Chase is a wonderful thing I have chased gold in Yankee, Achorage, Idaho city, San Pedros, Golden, Nevada, Utah, Dakota, Idaho and Oregon. Comparing notes with old timers and newbies is the way I was taught to be apart of the community. Is the treasure still out there? Is the poem a real map or is it just a poem with as many meanings as there are interpreters? Tag your it.
Lastly those of you who visited this blog from other countries I am so interested in what you think. I would love to hear from any of you. There are visitors from Germany, England, Poland, Canada, and the Netherlands. It is exciting to see so how about leaving a comment. Also how about the new layout? Like or not?
This is the best I could get. My phone camera didn’t flash. I estimate it was about a foot and a half to the bottom. Nothing was buried and it could be snowed on or rained on and it could burn in a forest fire. Forrest has said these things as reported on some of the earlier blogs. The opening was about 14 inches.